alt.drugs Frequently Asked Questions [ FAQ ]

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alt.drugs is a forum where people interested in the use of mind-altering substances, not necessarily even illegal ones, get together to share information and swap stories. If you are against drug use and post about it, be prepared to have lots of references and solid info on hand, since otherwise you WILL be flamed. Also, don't even THINK about trying to buy drugs on alt.drugs... you won't get any, period.
alt.drugs is subdivided into a number of groups. In addition to alt.drugs, which covers everything without its own group, there are the following:

alt.drugs.caffeine       Coffee, tea, and more exotic caffeine sources.
alt.drugs.chemistry      Manufacture, extraction, etc.
alt.drugs.culture        Trip accounts, music, etiquette, etc.
alt.drugs.hard           Hard drugs such as heroin, cocaine, etc.
alt.drugs.pot            All forms of cannabis and everything related to it.
alt.drugs.psychedelics   LSD, DMT, mushrooms, etc.
alt.drugs.usenet         The most addictive drug of all!  A joke group.

    alt.drugs, created in 1986, is the 2nd oldest group in alt.  However,most subgroups were created in 1994 and are thus not yet received by many sites.  If your site does not receive them, ask your sysadmin to add them. alt.drugs.pot.cultivation is *not* a legitimate group and it should not be used.  Here are some more interesting groups not found under alt.drugs:

alt.drunken.bastards     Abusers of the drug ethanol.
alt.hemp                 Various uses of the plant, focus on industrial use.
alt.psychoactives        Primarily nootropics, ie. "smart drugs".
alt.smokers              Nicotine addicts' discussion group.      Beer discussion.    Coffee, with and without caffeine.       Additional "smart drug" discussion.         Technical discussion about pharmaceutical drugs.    Technical discussion about legal psychoactives.
talk.politics.drugs      The politics of drugs.

   Rumors abound about the Feds/the cops/the DEA monitoring alt.drugs,
but evidently nobody has been busted/investigated *solely* because of
posting.  But if you're going to admit to something illegal, it's a good
idea to post it via an anonymous server.  Just mail your message to, and the rest is magic.  For more details,

Here are some acronyms in common use on alt.drugs.*

   5-HT      5-hydroxytryptamine aka serotonin (a chemical found in the
             brain; many drugs affect serotonin levels)
   DMT       N,N-dimethyltryptamine (an extremely powerful hallucinogen)
   DXM       Dextromethorphan (a hallucinogen found in some cough syrups)
   FOAF      Friend of a Friend
   LSD       Lysergic acid diethylamide (a popular hallucinogen)
   WoD       War on Drugs
   WoSD      War on Some Drugs (ie. alcohol, nicotine, caffeine excluded)
   YMMV      Your Mileage May Vary (ie. individual reactions are different)

Really Frequently Asked Questions

All directory and file paths refer to Extensive references for almost all the info below are available in a separate file.

Is there strychnine (rat poison) in LSD?

No, there is no strychnine in LSD. EVER. It is physically impossible to fit enough strychnine on a blotter tab to cause an effect; besides, since strychnine is expensive and the manufacturing process never uses it, there's absolutely no point in putting it there. (No, it does not bind the LSD to the paper or carry it across the blood-brain barrier or...) Large-scale lab analyses of street samples have never found ANY strychnine in LSD. The 'speedy' effects of acid, often attributed to the mythical strychnine, are in fact caused by a bad set and setting, not impurities in the drug. See the LSD FAQ and /drugs/psychedelics/lsd/strychnine.

Does LSD leave crystals in your brain/spinal fluid that cause flashbacks?

No. LSD is water soluble and entirely cycled out of your system within a few days. Full-fledged "pathological" flashbacks can be caused by any traumatic or extraordinary experience, including an LSD trip, but are not directly caused by the drug. See the LSD FAQ.

What happens if I take LSD while I'm on Prozac or other antidepressants?

Certain antidepressants including SSRIs like Prozac will reduce the effect of psychedelics, but there are two notable exceptions. MDMA and a MAOI can induce a hypertensive crisis which may cause death! TCA or lithium and a hallucinogen will increase the effect of the drug, often to an unpleasant extent. If you have a story, mail to participate in her study on this.

I have a recipe for making LSD with moldy rye bread and hair spray...

No. The -synthesis- of LSD is a very, very difficult process that requires dangerous chemicals and lots of experience in organic chemistry. Check out (also available by FTP) for information on the synthesis of GHB, LSD, MDMA, methamphetamine, methcathinone and N2O. If you don't understand the synthesis, go read organic chemistry, we can't put it "in English" for you.
As for some of the more famous recipes:
LSD from apple cores:   No.
LSD from Foster's beer: No, the recipe is some twit's idea of a  
LSD from orange peels:  No.
LSD from moldy rye:     A laboratory (not kitchen) can extract  
                        LSA, a related substance.  See /drugs/psychedelics/lsd/ergot.culture.
LSD from morning glory: Another extraction of LSA, see the 
                        Morning Glory FAQ.
Meth from inhalers:     An extraction of l-methamphetamine, a 
                        much weaker substance than real meth.

Can you overdose on acid/pot?

No, overdosing on pot would require smoking or eating several KILOS of the stuff within 15 minutes. Overdosing on LSD is equally difficult. There is a case where a number of people snorted a massive overdose (equal to around 1250 hits) of pure LSD tartrate, believing it to be cocaine; some of them fell into comas and had other severe physical reactions, but lived through the experience with no permanent physical or mental damage.

What is Ecstasy (E, X, XTC)?

Ecstasy should be 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), but on the street it is often a close chemical relative like MDA or MDE. It may also on occasion be a mixture of unrelated chemicals like LSD and/or methamphetamine (speed). Contrary to popular belief E is *not* laced with heroin, heroin costs too much, is very different in its effects, and is not active orally; the only possibility is a heroin/MDMA mix for snorting or injecting. What people think of as effects caused by heroin are often just MDA or MDE. Does MDMA cause brain damage/Parkinson's disease/deplete spinal fluid? No, although investigations on possible brain damage continue; there is certainly no drastic brain damage though. The Parkinson's rumors come from a journalist confusing MDMA with MPTP, a product of screwed-up opiate manufacture which has nothing at all to do with MDMA. See the MDMA FAQ.

Will marijuana do <X> to my body?

Marijuana does *not* cause brain/immune/reproductive system damage, concentrate in the brain/testicles, enlarge breasts in males or damage chromosomes. It *can* cause lung ailments such as cancer, and driving while stoned *can* cause accidents. MJ smoke is *not* 10 times worse than tobacco, they are roughly equal, it may even be less harmful. See Marijuana Myths or the Cannabis Hemp (alt.hemp) FAQ for more details.

What is "skunk"?

Skunk is a type of hemp (cannabis). It originally meant Cannabis indica in general, but over the last 20 years has come to refer to a name of particular sativa/indica cross. While Dutch skunk is famous, the name did not originate there (although the cross now known as skunk may have).

What are the monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs)?

The drugs phenelzine (Nardil), tranylcypromine (Parnate), l-deprenyl (ElDepryl, Selegiline) and plants containing harmaline (passionflower, Banisteriopsis caapi and Peganum harmala). THAT'S IT! Prozac, MDMA, beer, wine, cheese, chocolate etc are things you should AVOID when on a MAOI, they are *not* MAOIs themselves. Combining MAOIs and other drugs is potentially dangerous, do research beforehand.
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